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adrienmundi ([personal profile] adrienmundi) wrote2011-07-08 09:25 am
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question for the mystically inclined

I've never really paid attention to the idea of totemic animals or anything like that, tending to dismiss them as misappropriated concepts from indigenous cultures, wish fulfillment or the embodiment of longing for greater connection with the natural world, so I'm kind of ill prepared to face the daily interactions and I have with certain animals and the seeming significance of those interactions, namely crows and spiders.

Since I was a child, spiders have freaked me out. Up until the past five years or so, they've also been the only animal that consistently showed up in my dreams, almost always out of context of the rest of the dream. Due to some inspiration from a friend, I'm mostly over my spider issues. I speak to the ones I see (usually small), and feel protective of them most of the time. I don't quite understand what it's about, but I notice them a lot, and seem to have way more contact with them than I recall before, or hear others talk about.

Crows sort of thrust themselves into my awareness for the first time about seven years ago, then faded for about four or five years. In the recent past, I can't seem to go outside (at work, at home, in my neighborhood) without hearing their calls, which will often repeat until I locate them, make and hold eye contact for a moment. I'm starting to be able to identify the different sounds, and speak to them, too, when they're around. The connection there feels very different than with spiders; more conscious, more engaged, occasionally playful, almost like an extended social group (they are intelligent, social, tool using animals, so maybe I'm projecting, or responding to what I know of them). I feel like I get the crow connection more than the spider, even though I don't know what to do with either.

So I guess my questions start with: does this sound at all familiar to anyone? If so, are there resources any of you might recommend to get more information on this? I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go forward, so any information anyone has to offer would be greatly appreciated.

[identity profile] dv8dgrrl.livejournal.com 2011-07-09 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
I have a spider twitch. It started when I was 16, the summer before my 17th bday. My father had re-landscaped the front of the house, changing old wood chips with lava rock. Wolf spiders love their territories and do not do well as a colony being shifted that much.

He was also, at the same time, re-doing our entire HVAC duct work. The cold air return was close to the front door. They moved in.

My father didn't believe me when I said they were coming out of the actual duct in my bedroom at night (closest to the front door.) I spent an entire summer month with a shoe in one hand, a flashlight in the other and my glasses on.

It took a few weeks, but they finally migrated down to the duct over his bed. He choked on one in the middle of a deep snore and the very next day, those ducts were getting ripped out and replaced. N'minding my spider gut splattered ceiling.

So... since then, I can hear them. Walking on a wall or any flat surface. If they are webbing, I can hear the web sing. I speak to them, especially if over my head. We make deals that they stay out of private spaces and from being over my head and they can stay. Cross that line, and they are gone.

I had a black widow spider as a friend at my old office. I loved to talk to her as she drank the dew off her web in the morning.

I have other animals I can call to me. It's an odd story and one more fit for in an person convo.

[identity profile] skiadaimonos.livejournal.com 2011-07-11 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I'm generally rather skeptical of overly broad applications of the cultural (mis)appropriation trope. Cultures are not self-contained, static wholes, human knowledge, ideas and creativity are not, or should not be bounded and origins are neither determinant of full proprietary control nor prisons. The point of humans learning about one another is in large if not whole so that we can open up. We all take, borrow, derive, get inspired. Not all such human interaction is violence and it would be silly to miss out on wisdom (or just an interesting new lens) because of the current but arbitrary and historically contingent belief surrounding notions of self, identity, culture and personhood.

And so, since you are curious, why not do some journey work? You can ask your own direct questions and maybe get straight answers there.

[identity profile] dv8dgrrl.livejournal.com 2011-07-12 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooo, Righteous Room Fri after 5? Or someplace new you might want to try?

[identity profile] dv8dgrrl.livejournal.com 2011-07-12 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Tues or Thurs are open next week. I get off at 5 on Tues and 7 on Thurs. :)

[identity profile] dv8dgrrl.livejournal.com 2011-07-12 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds lovely. I am not familiar with either, so whichever strikes your fancy. (I trust your taste in food and atmosphere.) 6:30-ish next Tues. :)

[identity profile] dv8dgrrl.livejournal.com 2011-07-12 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds wonderful! See you then. :)

[identity profile] dv8dgrrl.livejournal.com 2011-07-12 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, I need a bib now. I looked on the menu and saw the heirloom tomato sandwich. LOL
*hugs* See you next Tues.