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Taste
Preference
Kink
Perversion
Fetish

Why does any of this matter?

Answers should be shared with the class.

Addendum: not intending to be opaque, and failing in that.

Why do these things seem like a progression, to me, from nonpejorative to highly suspect? Additionally, why am I so willing to assign the more "suspect" meanings to myself?

Hopefully that adds some clarity.

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I'm confused how it's not implicit in their very definitions, for example:
Preference: To like better.
If I prefer something, I will like it better than something else.
It matters because I want to do things I like more than things I do not like, or like less.

because some things that fall under those categories are the only way i can really feel things?

oh, don't get me started, a! the political history of "perversion" alone...

give context for this entry, please?

see, for me, "fetish" is far less suspect than "perverted."

kink is liking something a bit beyond the ordinary.
fetish is a devotion to something beyond the ordinary
perversion is a conviction that your desire should be satisfied by others, regardless of whether or not they want to satisfy it

Ah, the addendum helps muchly!

It seems to me that the words as crafted/developed were done so to indicate that progression - not necessarily consciously in relation to one another, but it's how they more or less turned out (hm, that exact order- I might disagree with in relation to myself and as I understand wider cultural use, but I won't diverge too much).
In the attempt to classify, which is almost always taken to extremes-past-utility, the 'norm' and variance from that were grown to help define, but then definition became judgement. I don't believe this is an inherent attribute of classification, but a pretty prevalent one. Er, to restate - exclusion and marginalization are not necessary attributes of classification, but are pretty damn common ones, like politics with corruption.

Not sure for the self-attribution: choosing to see oneself as willfully and even defiantly outside, defiant?
Accepting the yoke of classification for it's more exclused attributes, rather than the mainstream ones?
You're a kinky fetishistic pervert and that's that?

Argh!!!!

It matters because *you* give it that weight and *you* give it that definition.

If you're referencing 'bedroom' thoughts/actions, then there is only a very small number of people involved and they are the only ones who have any say in definitions. Period.

If you're referencing 'non-bedroom' thoughts/actions, then while society (or, in my opinion, more like a few morons) may use definitions such as above, it doesn't mean that they're *right*.

And, you know why you apply the more 'suspect' meanings to yourself ... 1. it seems like it'll be better if you beat 'them' to the punch 2. you set higher standards for yourself than you do for others 3. you try to anticipate the very worst that things, or you, can be 4. you are a big ol' silly head who needs to learn to give yourself a little slack and the permission to have fun.

Neener, neener, neener!! *smooch*

I tend to agree with your lovely... You're being a big ol' silly head who shouldn't be so hard on yourself. You're a beautiful, deeply sensitive and insightful person. THAT is what's important.

Woo hoo! Another ally in the war to Cut A Some Slack!! (Well, for nasty definition stuff, etc., *not* for taking care of the yard and such. Muah ha!)

I was still kinda big on the "kinky fetishistic pervert" thing, just for the same reasons gay folk brazenly call themselves queer.

But I'll vote 4 as well.

I was still kinda big on the "kinky fetishistic pervert" thing, just for the same reasons gay folk brazenly call themselves queer.

I concur, though it seems that it's much easier for me to ignore rules than some folks, ahem ...

But I'll vote 4 as well.

Great! I'm slowing growing a contingent, here. Bwah ha ha ha ha!

One person's taste or preference is another person's idea of perversion.

Fetish seems like a different thing altogether to me... describing not being able to be attracted or stimulated without some thing or activity, as opposed to enjoying the presence of some thing or activity.

Anyway, if we were all the same and liked the same things and wanted to be the same it would be boring. I would say that none of it does really matter, unless one's tastes run to real non-consentual activities.

Whatever it is, it is simply what it is... "I am like this." "I like this." or "I like doing this." No labels or value judgements necessary, whether it's bedroom stuff, or anything else.

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