put on notice

[adrienmundi]

To those listed below:

From this point forward, I will do everything in my power to remove you from office, any office, in this country. If anyone from any party runs against you, in primary or general election, they have my vote and my campaign money. In fact, I hereby pledge my personal funds against you all in every election in which you ever face any opposition. I will not buy the 'strategic positioning' argument from you or anyone in the DLC. Politics isn't a game, it's the life and death of real people, of this country; principles and ideals matter, you hypocritical morons, and you have shown that you stand against populism, civil liberties, the seperation of powers and resisting corporate oligopoly. Sure,I'm one person, and in none of your districts, but I'm not the only one who has taken note. You have shown yourselves to be no better than the Republicans, so you should start expecting to be treated like them.

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)

Comments

[aesthetic.livejournal.com]

Not Saxby?!!?

Oh Chambliss, what have you done... What - have - you - done.... lol

[adrienmundi]

Saxby's a Republican; I expect behavior only slightly less ethical than a cockroach from him.

[aesthetic.livejournal.com]

I know. But for some reason - in my "been awake for 3 minutes" brain - I found that comment absolutely hilarious... hahaha

woooo

[srl.livejournal.com]

I wish I could say I'm surprised.

[servingdonuts.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't be so harsh on them even if I were you. A filibuster has everything to do with politics and nothing to do with policy, and policy is where you should reward or punish congresscritters by working for or against their future election.

Even if all 44 Democrats were united in opposition, they couldn't block Alito's confirmation; the Republicans could and almost certainly would revoke the filibuster rules. So a vote against the filibuster isn't a vote in favor of Alito, it's a vote saying "I and/or the Democrats have more to lose by looking obstructionist than I/we have to gain by looking unwavering in opposition." A political decision - they may be right or wrong about the effects, but whatever the effects are they won't influence the Alito outcome, just the next election's outcome.

If you want to punish people over Alito, concentrate your wrath on Byrd, Johnson, Nelson, and Conrad, who have said they'll vote to confirm Alito. That's the vote that reveals their policies; that's the one that really counts.

[adrienmundi]

If all the Dems together can't do it on straight vote, which is a given, the only other option is to filibuster. If the Repubs want to change the rules of the senate, make them do it publically rather than allow them to bully and intimidate based on threat alone. In other words, if you're going to go down, go down swinging, and make sure the other folks in the fight leave with marks on them. It's a matter of principle, and the above failed.

[servingdonuts.livejournal.com]

Understood and granted, but the principle at matter in the filibuster vote is purely one of political tactics, not underlying principles of civil liberties and so forth. You'd be punishing them for a political calulation over how best to acheive the principles you share with them rather than for failing to uphold those principles.

But maybe that's worthy of punishment, if you think that their caclulation is wrong and thus they should be replaced with better political tacticians. I think their calculation was right; I think a filibuster would have hurt the Democrats more than the Republicans, so if I were a Democrat I'd be rewarding them for improving the Democrats' chances in the next election. Your milage may vary, of course.

Yet another perverse result from the sausage factory.

[adrienmundi]

Personally, I'd rather go down for something I truly believed in, rather than stay and stand for nothing, which is what I think far too many Dems are guilty of doing. I see the above list as exemplary of the DLC's riduculous influence that's behind every loss since Clinton (who succeeded on personality and salesmanship along, not ideology or principle).

So, perhaps a clarification: I'm sick of politicians who treat pursuit and retention of power as their ultimate goal. I want politicians who stand for something, who will act on principle. I'm sick of the overwhelming majority of the current lot, and want to see idealism worn brazenly, proudly, and honestly on their sleeves.

[servingdonuts.livejournal.com]

I'm sick of politicians who treat pursuit and retention of power as their ultimate goal. I want politicians who stand for something, who will act on principle. I'm sick of the overwhelming majority of the current lot, and want to see idealism worn brazenly, proudly, and honestly on their sleeves.

Yeah, me too (different principles, of course). Good luck with that. Principled idealists are pretty much unelectable unless they live in a very homogenous district like San Francisco, Salt Lake City, Massachusetts, or Texas.

Politicial systems produce politicians as surely as swamps produce snakes, frogs, and aligators. Survival of the fittest.

[adrienmundi]

I refuse to be defeatest about it. I think that if one Bernie Sanders can exist, others can exist. Money and media are a huge part of the problem, but I still think/hope the system can be resuscitated. I don't want to see collapse and the following suffering occur before reform is even attempted.

[servingdonuts.livejournal.com]

Huge digression, then (forgive me, I'm avoiding being productive at work): what constitutes resuscitation/reform? What constitutes collapse? After collapse, what then?

[adrienmundi]

It's not hard for me to envision modern fuedalism, in which private security guards with legal rights to shoot to kill protect the oligarchs' version of "society", while the growing underclass scrambles to find food, or even a chance to sell some integrity for a meal and a place to sleep for a few weeks. Add in the inevitable and unprepared for decline in oil (extraction and production), and it becomes impossible to escape economically depressed areas that cannot sustain themselves, since almost all food is produced in giant corporate farms in ways that encourage single crops, not healthy local life. The poor can choose to take up arms to protect the rich from their fellow poor, or starve. This is what collapse looks like to me.

[servingdonuts.livejournal.com]

Sounds like it would make an awesome setting for an RPG. :)

[adrienmundi]

I'd really rather play the game than live it.

But, if that does come about, it may finally lead to a time that heads of corporations are assassinated. I can certainly understand the impetus behind an anti-corporate reign of terror, even though I remain against killing people. Still, some days it's harder than others to retain ethical integrity.

[the-hueman.livejournal.com]

This sounds very close to the voice mail I left on Nelson's voice mail. although, I do live in his district. I informed him that I would work to remove him from office.